Model HP Mini 110-1025DX (Bios: HP Mini 110-1000): Google Play Store and Services. Issues across ported OS's like Cloudready, Android x86 for PC and Phoenix OS

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  • Forrest Smith

    Are you talking about this Chrome web store apps?

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-play/komhbcfkdcgmcdoenjcjheifdiabikfi?hl=en

    Note that the Google Play Store can be used on the web to manage your Android-enabled devices and consume all the other Google media they offer, but that doesn't mean that Android Apps and Google Play Services are therefore supported on those devices.

     

    It sounds like the main point of confusion is that you registered your Mini 110 as an Android-capable device when using Phoenix OS and/or Android_x86. Then, later, the Play web store showed it in the list, but it was referring to the other OS, not CloudReady.

    So, to clarify, CloudReady has not changed it's support for/policy on supporting Android apps and Google Play Store/Services. Sorry for any confusion.

  • SirRon

    Within the CloudReady, When you get the Welcome screen and get started, You can explore the Chrome Web Store or click the icon on the shelf or is it called a Docker?) When you are there browsing for apps in the store, On the list I arrived at Google Play Store with a blue button: Add to Chrome.  That button appears for items that you have not installed yet.  I clicked on the Icon Google Play Store icon and used it to install apps as I described above with no success.  I know that it goes to the Google Play Store on the browser.  If your saying although the Play Store appeared on the web in CloudReady, it doesn't mean CloudReady supports installing Android Apps, I believe that is what they meant on Neverware's Knowledge Base. What I am saying is why did it show an install button with an option to Install and then after say it is installed? Is this a bug in CloudReady? If CloudReady does not support installing Android Apps then why did the install happen. This should be blocked or removed from the Chrome Web Store.

    I checked the Chrome Web Store in CloudReady. It does say Add to Chrome.  I checked the Chrome Web Store in Windows Chrome browser and it also says Add to Chrome. Both shows it's on the HP Mini 110.

    I don't know what you mean that I registered my HP Mini 110 as an Android-capable device.  I did not have to do anything but run their installer and enter my Google Account.  In these Android for PC OS's the Google Play Store and Service are Android apps, not a Web site app.  In CloudReady, Google Play Store goes to the website in Chrome.

    So the question was why did it appear as it was going to work?

     

     

     

  • Forrest Smith

    The Google Play store can be used as both  an app and a website.

     

    The site works on CloudReady, the app will not. The site can be used to do the following things:

    • Install Android apps to Android devices that the same user account owns
    • Access Music, Movies, Books associated with that same user account (to the extent those are supported for web access)
    • Manage other Google Play Store settings

     

    So that Google Play Store web site is listed in the Chrome Web Store because all of the above actions are normal, supported things to do in a web browser. The Google Play Store Chrome App appears to work because it does work, but only for those actions.

     

     

    After you install the web version of the Google Play Store on CloudReady, you can nor browser the available Android Applications in the Google Play Store. They will show an "Install" button and, when you click it, give you a list of available Android devices to install that application to. From your first post, it sounds like when you click the "Install" button, one of the devices you see listed as an option to install to is named "HP Mini 100-1000". That is there because, at some point in the past, a device with that name  was running Android and therefore is viewed as a valid device to install an Android app to. 

    However, your CloudReady device is not a valid device to install Android to. If you reinstall Android_x86 or Phoenix OS on the same device, then you could use the Google Play Store website to install Android apps to the device named "HP Mini 100-1000", but because you installed CloudReady on that same device, and CloudReady does not support Android Apps, nothing is happening. 

    Hope that clears up your confusion. 

  • SirRon

    Thank You Mr. Smith. For your awesome and speedy replies.


    The Google Play Store as the Android App or the Website made to function fully for Android devices running Android; from installing, running to uninstalling. I understand.

    The Android OS should not prevent Google Play Store and Google Play Service from functioning. Although emulated or ported Android operating systems like Android x86 for the PC and Phoenix OS is in theory, when installed on computers with the x86 architecture, become an Android device.  Google Play Store should have worked in this case, but it doesn't work; like installing, running apps and sometimes not able to access an apps disable or force stop buttons.

    What I would have expected in CloudReady to happen is, say for example, I viewed Google Play Store in Chrome for Windows, I would assume that I could navigate and read every part of the website, but should not have viewable options to install because I would expect something on the website or Windows to prevent an install action or install button to appear for an app because of detection of the wrong OS, or the wrong web browser or OS like CloudReady. Yet, in CloudReady the install button did appear, I did install an app and an install process did occur. Did the install of the application increase my storage space? I don't know. I can't click anything to uninstall the app but it does say the app is installed.

    Is CloudReady now broken somehow because CLoudReady did not prevent it? Must I now reinstall CloudReady. Are there other repositories or websites that can also behave like this?

    On another note, you said the name "HP Mini 110-1000" my have appeared as a valid device to install because some point in the past that name was running on Android. Yes, it was used by Androied x86 and Phoenix OS because it was detected and not manually entered by me. I spent weeks trying to figure out why my laptop is detected as "HP Mini 110-1000". I spent all that time believing it was an error because the product sticker says my laptop model is: HP Mini 110-1025DX. Turns out that "HP Mini 110-1000" is the name of the laptop in the BIOS. This name can't be edited because it's hard coded. Why is there no consistency in the model names, I don't know.  Users who are baffled with this kind of issue with two different model names for the same computer should look in the BIOS for the model name. The model name in the BIOS is what is detected by installers for OS's.

    Also the Google Account records Device Information of any device you log into using a Google Account. I went into my account to clear all the devices I logged into. That did not improve anything for configuration purposes in the installation process of the OS.

    It's my opinion and if Neverware developers are reading our post, they should look into this issue. Since no Android app from Google Play Store Chrome Web App can be installed, this website or CloudReady should disable or hide any options to install Android apps or by any other non supported OS. This should be fixed immediately or Neverware should expect other Newbies like me to post the same issues about this problem.

     

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